A week from today we’ll be heading to Costa Rica, and couldn’t be more thrilled!
As I mentioned in a previous post HERE, I’m making a stop at the Costa Rican Humanitarian Foundation… to take portraits for their families and donate all the shoes you have so lovingly sent!
A HUGE THANKS to all that donated: from Pacy, to AvaLava, to Nemz, to the cousins in Gatorville.
In a strange twist (which tends to be the story of my life, lol) I didn’t get 49 POUNDS of shoes, but ironically ended up with 49 pairs to donate. Kinda kooky? huh?
I’ve been in contact with the director, Cathy, and we’re all just thrilled to be helping out the Ticans with this gift!
Thank you all again for your kindness.
Pura Vida!
A few shots….
Friday, April 23, 2010
Wednesday, April 14, 2010
A Stream of Nonsense from Two Nervous Chicas
Tracie:Ever have one of those days where you are just in a total panic for no real reason? I'm pacing around the house, all wound up... with 1000 things to do, and can't concentrate on even one of them.
I am HATING how I feel on birth control pills (which ironically, you have to be on prior to IVF to "quiet" your ovaries down, only to WAKE THEM UP BY SCREAMING AT THEM with $4K worth of meds... oh lordie I never realized how awful they are, wowza! so much of my 20's make more sense now, lol... I have too much to get done before CR, I'm freaking out about NOT CYCLING (who knew the lack of daily/weekly appts would send me over the edge...) and I just don't know what to do with myself.
I need to finalize the landscape stuff to be done while we're gone, and dig thru the gross part of the basement to find the paint we used for the family room and such. (ice dam repairs) There's seedling planting to be done, and hastas to replant. The dog needs a haircut and so does this lady. Let's not even talk about the state of my winter feet. Ick. A pedicure is going to cost me an extra $20 in tips as an apology. Davez has bought the same belt 3 times by mistake, and now it's up to me to fix it. The laundry is piling up, the poor fish needs a bowl change, and someone PLEASE tell Ava where she put her Dora "pack pack" because it's no where to be found. The ONLY thing that came as good news today is the fact my mattress finally "failed" it's inspection and now Mattress Giant WILL HAVE TO REPLACE it. I've been fighting over this POS mattress for quite a while now. They obviously didn't know who they were messing with! "Tenacious" is my middle name.
I have moments where I think I'm coming undone. Where I'm convinced this whole trip will be a bust and I'll come back with nothing but 4 gig cards full of cute pictures and a sunburn.
Then there's moments where I know in (probably) one month from today we'll be holding the cards we were delt. We'll know what we're capable of making, in scientific terms. (we already know Ava is perfect, lol). I still have the audacity of hope. I still worry about everything 98% of my day. And I still can't find that "Parisian Rain" paint can. Damnit.
Christa: My smushy thoughts (All of my thoughts smushed into a paragraph of nonsensical phrases) This is what happens the cycle before IVF and you have a fear of the unknown. It totally consumes your life.
Eggs, sperm, embryos, eggs, sperm, embryos...... lots of embryos. How am I going to fit all of this in one suitcase?I hope Ella decides not to throw a fit on the airplane. What if this works and we have twins, how will I do two at a time plus a toddler? Should I bring pepper spray over the border or buy it there? Eggs, sperm, embryos, eggs, sperm, embryos...... lots of embryos. I'm tired. No milk left, I have to run to the store (come back with more stuff to pack in my suitcase). Should I start learning more Spanish than "Hola" and "El bano"? I need to clean and prep, but I'm sitting here on Facebook. Stay in the zone Christa. I should run to Target. Can three carseats fit in my Fusion? Did I watch LOST this week yet? I wonder if those injections are going to hurt as much as I think they are. That E-bay skirt is cute! I hate Yaz. Eggs, sperm, embryos, eggs, sperm, embryos....lots of embryos.
I am HATING how I feel on birth control pills (which ironically, you have to be on prior to IVF to "quiet" your ovaries down, only to WAKE THEM UP BY SCREAMING AT THEM with $4K worth of meds... oh lordie I never realized how awful they are, wowza! so much of my 20's make more sense now, lol... I have too much to get done before CR, I'm freaking out about NOT CYCLING (who knew the lack of daily/weekly appts would send me over the edge...) and I just don't know what to do with myself.
I need to finalize the landscape stuff to be done while we're gone, and dig thru the gross part of the basement to find the paint we used for the family room and such. (ice dam repairs) There's seedling planting to be done, and hastas to replant. The dog needs a haircut and so does this lady. Let's not even talk about the state of my winter feet. Ick. A pedicure is going to cost me an extra $20 in tips as an apology. Davez has bought the same belt 3 times by mistake, and now it's up to me to fix it. The laundry is piling up, the poor fish needs a bowl change, and someone PLEASE tell Ava where she put her Dora "pack pack" because it's no where to be found. The ONLY thing that came as good news today is the fact my mattress finally "failed" it's inspection and now Mattress Giant WILL HAVE TO REPLACE it. I've been fighting over this POS mattress for quite a while now. They obviously didn't know who they were messing with! "Tenacious" is my middle name.
I have moments where I think I'm coming undone. Where I'm convinced this whole trip will be a bust and I'll come back with nothing but 4 gig cards full of cute pictures and a sunburn.
Then there's moments where I know in (probably) one month from today we'll be holding the cards we were delt. We'll know what we're capable of making, in scientific terms. (we already know Ava is perfect, lol). I still have the audacity of hope. I still worry about everything 98% of my day. And I still can't find that "Parisian Rain" paint can. Damnit.
Christa: My smushy thoughts (All of my thoughts smushed into a paragraph of nonsensical phrases) This is what happens the cycle before IVF and you have a fear of the unknown. It totally consumes your life.
Eggs, sperm, embryos, eggs, sperm, embryos...... lots of embryos. How am I going to fit all of this in one suitcase?I hope Ella decides not to throw a fit on the airplane. What if this works and we have twins, how will I do two at a time plus a toddler? Should I bring pepper spray over the border or buy it there? Eggs, sperm, embryos, eggs, sperm, embryos...... lots of embryos. I'm tired. No milk left, I have to run to the store (come back with more stuff to pack in my suitcase). Should I start learning more Spanish than "Hola" and "El bano"? I need to clean and prep, but I'm sitting here on Facebook. Stay in the zone Christa. I should run to Target. Can three carseats fit in my Fusion? Did I watch LOST this week yet? I wonder if those injections are going to hurt as much as I think they are. That E-bay skirt is cute! I hate Yaz. Eggs, sperm, embryos, eggs, sperm, embryos....lots of embryos.
Tuesday, April 6, 2010
What's on our mind?
Tracie e-mailed me today asking a question.
What are your 3 worries and 3 fun things you are looking forward to on this trip?
My answers were as follows:
Worries:
1) One of us gets sick or is physically not able to go through with it the procedure.
2) OHSS
3) We get there and they pull a fast one on us with fees.
Looking forward to:
1) meeting Tracie and Ava:)
2) getting to see two beautiful countries
3)having new experiences!!
Tracie made me do my own before I looked at hers which were:
Worries:
1) Something physically stopping us from going
2) Bunk embryos
3) OHSS
Looking forward to:
1) Shopping local markets
2) Getting a great fert report
3) Toes in the sand and surf at midnight
What would be the top 3 worries/3 things you would be looking forward to? What do you think we should be worried about?
What are your 3 worries and 3 fun things you are looking forward to on this trip?
My answers were as follows:
Worries:
1) One of us gets sick or is physically not able to go through with it the procedure.
2) OHSS
3) We get there and they pull a fast one on us with fees.
Looking forward to:
1) meeting Tracie and Ava:)
2) getting to see two beautiful countries
3)having new experiences!!
Tracie made me do my own before I looked at hers which were:
Worries:
1) Something physically stopping us from going
2) Bunk embryos
3) OHSS
Looking forward to:
1) Shopping local markets
2) Getting a great fert report
3) Toes in the sand and surf at midnight
What would be the top 3 worries/3 things you would be looking forward to? What do you think we should be worried about?
Friday, April 2, 2010
How Has Dealing With Infertility Changed Your Relationships?
Christa
Fertility has most certainly affected every single one of my relationships in everyday life. I’m not sure that I’ve actually lost friends over it, but I have kept myself at a distance from some who may not say the right thing.
One instance, for example, when we lost our second baby, we found ourselves having to “untell” people that we were pregnant. We will never tell people early again for this very reason. We got a lot of well wishes and “I’m sorry for your loss” messages which were nice, but we also experienced certain people who would tell us “it was God’s way of telling us it wasn’t meant to be”. That’s about the last thing you want to hear when you lose a baby. That YOUR baby wasn’t “meant to be”. And to even bring God into it is ridiculous. I can remember one person distinctly telling me this even after I told her it bothered me. We are still friends, but I don’t disclose as much anymore.
My “mommies group” I belong to has given undying support in my times of need. They are going through the same sort of thing that I am and I think that really helps. I’ve made so many friends through this group and sometimes I think they are why I can get through the day. And I have to say, if it weren't for this "mommies group", Tracie and I wouldn't be going on this trip and for that I'm eternally grateful.
Going through infertility, I’ve heard comments like “have you thought about adopting?” or “how about a surrogate?” I politely decline, but really want to say something like “my condition doesn’t even require a surrogate and it’s even more costly than the IVF we’re about to do.” Or “would you give up your dream of having a biological child if that’s what you wanted the most”. And, again, adoption is more costly than infertility treatments most times. Maybe they think what they are saying is absolutely innocent, but if you sit back and listen to what you are asking, it’s sometimes insulting.
My family has always been there for me. They may not know exactly what it is they should say, so they mostly stay quiet, but I know they are there for me if I need to cry or pout about a failed cycle or how unfair it is that the 15 year old girl 2 streets down is pregnant with her second. My mom has been there for me through all the surgeries, letdowns, horrible doctors appointments and everything else. So I think infertility has STRENGTHENED our relationship. What I think is great about that is the fact that she was VERY fertile, so she had to reach to the other side of the spectrum and make sure she didn’t say anything to offend me.
Let me finish off saying something about my rock in all of this. I think infertility has brought my husband and I closer together. Experiencing infertility in a relationship can be very challenging, but you see just how strong your relationship is and just how much it can be put to the test. Adam has sat next to me time and time again, obnoxiously testing WAY too early to see if there was a hint of HcG in my blood. He never said a word, because he knew it was my way of coping with all of it. He has listened through all the tears about my friends getting pregnant and me not.
Now, I’m not saying we don’t fight about other things in our lives, but this is one thing we’ve come closer together because of. We support each other and I think it helps to know that at least there is one consistent reprieve at the end of the day.Adam made no hint of resistance about this trip. He was all for it if it meant getting another baby out of it. And while this trip has the chance of being unsuccessful, I know that Adam and I will make it through and keep trying. Infertility has at least made our relationship more stable.
Tracie
How has it NOT? I can't think of one relationship that it's not touched, in some way, shape or form. I have friends that I am closer to, because they've delt with this crap themselves. Those are the best kind of friends in my world right now. They get the frustration. The understand the heartache and disappointment. They know that sometimes they just need to STFU and listen, and nod their head, and agree that yes, this does suck, in just the increments.
Then there are family members that have no idea what to do. It's not like you want to sit around and talk about your sex life with your parents (or heck, maybe you do, whatever) and because most of this is so very personal, I think in my case, much goes unsaid. And how can someone "be there" for you if they don't know what's going on? How?
Sometimes I feel like I'm a huge big fat disappointment to my parents. I waited too long to start having kids, lost a bunch of their grandkids along the way, and here I sit. Broken. They don't get how financially stressful this is. The don't get the physical pain of stims. They don't get "BFN's" because they never had to deal with them. Siblings? Mine don't have a clue. I don't so much mind that, we're spaced so far apart I'm not sure support from them would be an option. My SIL knows and "gets" this a bit, because she's had another friend deal with it, so that's nice. Davez's sister/SIL are very supportive as well. But by no fault of their own, they don't "get it get it", know what I mean?
I think the biggest impact Infertility has had on my relationships has been with my "BFF's from growing up." There are two friends I've had since I was a tween. We've been friends for a 1,000 years. But now we don't even know eachother. We're all in different places in our lives. In my eyes, they stopped caring about what was going on with me. Perhaps they don't get it, perhaps they don't WANT to. And I'm sure that sounds like a whole 'lotta Me. Me. Me. but when an "issue" (what is this?) is what your life REVOLVES around, it becomes a PART of who you are. No longer do I care about calling boys from the payphone in the Pizza Hut parking lot. I care about how what my follie check will be next Tuesday. That's both hard to explain, and hard to know how to be friends to. I don't blame them, or hate them for "not caring." But I wish they would. At least on SOME level. That's been the hardest part of Infertility on my relationships.
Add the biggest love in my life... my husband. What has this done to me & Davez?
I do not know. Sometimes I feel like we're just going through the motions. Sometimes he's my roommate and I can't stand him and his dirty socks. Sometimes he's the only friend I have in this world. Sometimes I think he has NO CLUE how hard this is. Sometimes he hurts more than I do, and I might have missed his signs. He's subtle like that. He's German. I'm sure he wishes as hard as I do that we didn't have to deal with this. And often I wonder how in the HELL I would get through any of this without him.
I carry a great deal of guilt for the issues I've brought to growing our family. Guilt that's manifested itself into my thighs and waistline. Guilt that's made my scalp gross, my moods bitchy, and my temper short. And here he sits. Waiting for me to tell him the next move. Sometimes when I'm mad at my roommate for his stinky socks I think of this.
And then I fall even more in love with that roommate, and said stinky socks. Although he's got some morphology issues that may have contributed to our woes, it is with his strength that we've gotten through this crap. Put another tick mark under "saved me" for my Davez. If we can get through this part, we're golden....
If you have delt with infertility, and feel comfortable writing about how it's affected your relationship, we'd love to hear from you. One of many reasons we're doing this blog is not only to educate and guide people on the "IVF Vacation" process, but perhaps to help the friends & family with the intimate feelings of someone who's going through this as well. We'd love to hear from you in the comments below, or feel free to email us your thoughts, which we can certainly post without names/info.
Thank you!
Fertility has most certainly affected every single one of my relationships in everyday life. I’m not sure that I’ve actually lost friends over it, but I have kept myself at a distance from some who may not say the right thing.
One instance, for example, when we lost our second baby, we found ourselves having to “untell” people that we were pregnant. We will never tell people early again for this very reason. We got a lot of well wishes and “I’m sorry for your loss” messages which were nice, but we also experienced certain people who would tell us “it was God’s way of telling us it wasn’t meant to be”. That’s about the last thing you want to hear when you lose a baby. That YOUR baby wasn’t “meant to be”. And to even bring God into it is ridiculous. I can remember one person distinctly telling me this even after I told her it bothered me. We are still friends, but I don’t disclose as much anymore.
My “mommies group” I belong to has given undying support in my times of need. They are going through the same sort of thing that I am and I think that really helps. I’ve made so many friends through this group and sometimes I think they are why I can get through the day. And I have to say, if it weren't for this "mommies group", Tracie and I wouldn't be going on this trip and for that I'm eternally grateful.
Going through infertility, I’ve heard comments like “have you thought about adopting?” or “how about a surrogate?” I politely decline, but really want to say something like “my condition doesn’t even require a surrogate and it’s even more costly than the IVF we’re about to do.” Or “would you give up your dream of having a biological child if that’s what you wanted the most”. And, again, adoption is more costly than infertility treatments most times. Maybe they think what they are saying is absolutely innocent, but if you sit back and listen to what you are asking, it’s sometimes insulting.
My family has always been there for me. They may not know exactly what it is they should say, so they mostly stay quiet, but I know they are there for me if I need to cry or pout about a failed cycle or how unfair it is that the 15 year old girl 2 streets down is pregnant with her second. My mom has been there for me through all the surgeries, letdowns, horrible doctors appointments and everything else. So I think infertility has STRENGTHENED our relationship. What I think is great about that is the fact that she was VERY fertile, so she had to reach to the other side of the spectrum and make sure she didn’t say anything to offend me.
Let me finish off saying something about my rock in all of this. I think infertility has brought my husband and I closer together. Experiencing infertility in a relationship can be very challenging, but you see just how strong your relationship is and just how much it can be put to the test. Adam has sat next to me time and time again, obnoxiously testing WAY too early to see if there was a hint of HcG in my blood. He never said a word, because he knew it was my way of coping with all of it. He has listened through all the tears about my friends getting pregnant and me not.
Now, I’m not saying we don’t fight about other things in our lives, but this is one thing we’ve come closer together because of. We support each other and I think it helps to know that at least there is one consistent reprieve at the end of the day.Adam made no hint of resistance about this trip. He was all for it if it meant getting another baby out of it. And while this trip has the chance of being unsuccessful, I know that Adam and I will make it through and keep trying. Infertility has at least made our relationship more stable.
Tracie
How has it NOT? I can't think of one relationship that it's not touched, in some way, shape or form. I have friends that I am closer to, because they've delt with this crap themselves. Those are the best kind of friends in my world right now. They get the frustration. The understand the heartache and disappointment. They know that sometimes they just need to STFU and listen, and nod their head, and agree that yes, this does suck, in just the increments.
Then there are family members that have no idea what to do. It's not like you want to sit around and talk about your sex life with your parents (or heck, maybe you do, whatever) and because most of this is so very personal, I think in my case, much goes unsaid. And how can someone "be there" for you if they don't know what's going on? How?
Sometimes I feel like I'm a huge big fat disappointment to my parents. I waited too long to start having kids, lost a bunch of their grandkids along the way, and here I sit. Broken. They don't get how financially stressful this is. The don't get the physical pain of stims. They don't get "BFN's" because they never had to deal with them. Siblings? Mine don't have a clue. I don't so much mind that, we're spaced so far apart I'm not sure support from them would be an option. My SIL knows and "gets" this a bit, because she's had another friend deal with it, so that's nice. Davez's sister/SIL are very supportive as well. But by no fault of their own, they don't "get it get it", know what I mean?
I think the biggest impact Infertility has had on my relationships has been with my "BFF's from growing up." There are two friends I've had since I was a tween. We've been friends for a 1,000 years. But now we don't even know eachother. We're all in different places in our lives. In my eyes, they stopped caring about what was going on with me. Perhaps they don't get it, perhaps they don't WANT to. And I'm sure that sounds like a whole 'lotta Me. Me. Me. but when an "issue" (what is this?) is what your life REVOLVES around, it becomes a PART of who you are. No longer do I care about calling boys from the payphone in the Pizza Hut parking lot. I care about how what my follie check will be next Tuesday. That's both hard to explain, and hard to know how to be friends to. I don't blame them, or hate them for "not caring." But I wish they would. At least on SOME level. That's been the hardest part of Infertility on my relationships.
Add the biggest love in my life... my husband. What has this done to me & Davez?
I do not know. Sometimes I feel like we're just going through the motions. Sometimes he's my roommate and I can't stand him and his dirty socks. Sometimes he's the only friend I have in this world. Sometimes I think he has NO CLUE how hard this is. Sometimes he hurts more than I do, and I might have missed his signs. He's subtle like that. He's German. I'm sure he wishes as hard as I do that we didn't have to deal with this. And often I wonder how in the HELL I would get through any of this without him.
I carry a great deal of guilt for the issues I've brought to growing our family. Guilt that's manifested itself into my thighs and waistline. Guilt that's made my scalp gross, my moods bitchy, and my temper short. And here he sits. Waiting for me to tell him the next move. Sometimes when I'm mad at my roommate for his stinky socks I think of this.
And then I fall even more in love with that roommate, and said stinky socks. Although he's got some morphology issues that may have contributed to our woes, it is with his strength that we've gotten through this crap. Put another tick mark under "saved me" for my Davez. If we can get through this part, we're golden....
If you have delt with infertility, and feel comfortable writing about how it's affected your relationship, we'd love to hear from you. One of many reasons we're doing this blog is not only to educate and guide people on the "IVF Vacation" process, but perhaps to help the friends & family with the intimate feelings of someone who's going through this as well. We'd love to hear from you in the comments below, or feel free to email us your thoughts, which we can certainly post without names/info.
Thank you!
Saturday, March 27, 2010
We need your shoes
No, not the ones that are on your feet. The ones you don't use anymore. Tracie has this GREAT idea of donating shoes to local shelters. Got any?? Email us at ticoandlupe@gmail.com!
Wednesday, March 24, 2010
More Q&A- Christa&Tracie
Where are the snow babies kept if you have any that make it to freeze?
They are kept in Panama where they are ready for either donation or an FET.
If my cycle doesn't succeed, will I try again with a frozen FET?
Christa-A FET is an option, but I'm not sure how soon we would do it. Depends on funds and time off. I'm the only one who will essentially need time off because the embryos will already be down there, but it's still difficult with everything we have going on in our normal, everyday life.
Tracie: Yes. As soon as we can, I hope. I will mother others.
Are all of us going (IE- husbands, kids)-
Yes, all of us are eventually going to be there. Tracie, Ava, Christa, Adam, and Ella are traveling down there first and Davez is meeting us there a couple of days later. We are staying together most of the time, and Tracie, Davez, and Ava are taking a brief trip to the coast when we don't have doctors appts for a stretch of time.
Was it difficult to convince your DH to do this IVF Vacation?
Christa- At first, I think Adam was kind of wary of going to another country for medical care, but with all the research that both Tracie and I did, he was almost immediately convinced.
Tracie- I think we both took a while to get used to the idea. I still can't believe our journey has led us here. NEVER did I think we'd have to do IVF. Never. But the idea of doing something unconventional like out-of-the-country IVF is right up our alley. We traveled around the world for 6 months straight in 2006... traveling is our "thing" to say the least. So this kinda' "fits" us, I guess.
Davez still tries to change the whole plan (which is now 99% booked) to going to Thailand instead, but logistically, this just makes more sense. To be honest, I didn't think he'd go for it. Then I thought he went for it to shut me up. Now he's on board. Nervous, and displacing over it, but on board. His biggest fear is not having time to chill by himself, and having Ava loose her chit on the airplane. I got both handled, we'll be fine.
Do you know each other or will you be meeting for the first time in Costa Rica?
This is the exciting part. We have only been email chatting and will be meeting each other for the first time in the baggage terminal where Tracie has already said that she is going to try not to laugh at my "East Coast" accent:)
Tracie: Little does Christa know, I'm actually a 13 year old zit-covered kid from Portland, Oregon. I've been foolin' all your asses for years now. Surprise!
What do your families think about this?
Christa- my parents have been very supportive, my mom was a bit skeptical at first because the first plan was for the girls to go for half and the guys to go for the other. She was upset Adam wasn't going for the whole time and we were going to be "alone" in a foreign country. But she's ok with it especially now since Adam is coming for the whole thing. Honestly, I was a little bit scared of flying all that way with Ella on my lap especially since I hate flying (I get very sick and my ears won't pop). So I'm glad to have the help.
My in laws have been great, helping us book some of their time share so we don't have to pay to stay at certain times during the trip. BIG HELP!!! They are very supportive of our adventure.
Tracie- Hhhmm, that's still pending. My mom is scared, I think. Of the unknown. I tried to explain the process to her last nite, and she says "OMG, this is all very complicated." Um, yes. It is. My dad doesn't say much. We've not said anything else to other family yet. Not sure what we'll do with this.
Our biggest fear is that a child that comes from this process will be LABELED. Which happens sometimes, as much as we'd like to think it doesn't. This has been one helluva journey for us. Although I am bummed (read: ashamed) my body has not worked for us well, I will be extremely proud of any child that comes from this. No matter HOW they got into my belly. I wish Guiana & Bill Rancic were not the ones paving the way for people being open about Infertility. I wish superstars would not keep this problem a secret. I wish no one had to deal with it, but if someone does, I would sure love for that shroud of (whatever it is) to not cover it.
Rant over. Sorry. I don't care what people think, we're doing what is best for our family.
As always, feel free to ask any other questions you have, we are happy to answer.
They are kept in Panama where they are ready for either donation or an FET.
If my cycle doesn't succeed, will I try again with a frozen FET?
Christa-A FET is an option, but I'm not sure how soon we would do it. Depends on funds and time off. I'm the only one who will essentially need time off because the embryos will already be down there, but it's still difficult with everything we have going on in our normal, everyday life.
Tracie: Yes. As soon as we can, I hope. I will mother others.
Are all of us going (IE- husbands, kids)-
Yes, all of us are eventually going to be there. Tracie, Ava, Christa, Adam, and Ella are traveling down there first and Davez is meeting us there a couple of days later. We are staying together most of the time, and Tracie, Davez, and Ava are taking a brief trip to the coast when we don't have doctors appts for a stretch of time.
Was it difficult to convince your DH to do this IVF Vacation?
Christa- At first, I think Adam was kind of wary of going to another country for medical care, but with all the research that both Tracie and I did, he was almost immediately convinced.
Tracie- I think we both took a while to get used to the idea. I still can't believe our journey has led us here. NEVER did I think we'd have to do IVF. Never. But the idea of doing something unconventional like out-of-the-country IVF is right up our alley. We traveled around the world for 6 months straight in 2006... traveling is our "thing" to say the least. So this kinda' "fits" us, I guess.
Davez still tries to change the whole plan (which is now 99% booked) to going to Thailand instead, but logistically, this just makes more sense. To be honest, I didn't think he'd go for it. Then I thought he went for it to shut me up. Now he's on board. Nervous, and displacing over it, but on board. His biggest fear is not having time to chill by himself, and having Ava loose her chit on the airplane. I got both handled, we'll be fine.
Do you know each other or will you be meeting for the first time in Costa Rica?
This is the exciting part. We have only been email chatting and will be meeting each other for the first time in the baggage terminal where Tracie has already said that she is going to try not to laugh at my "East Coast" accent:)
Tracie: Little does Christa know, I'm actually a 13 year old zit-covered kid from Portland, Oregon. I've been foolin' all your asses for years now. Surprise!
What do your families think about this?
Christa- my parents have been very supportive, my mom was a bit skeptical at first because the first plan was for the girls to go for half and the guys to go for the other. She was upset Adam wasn't going for the whole time and we were going to be "alone" in a foreign country. But she's ok with it especially now since Adam is coming for the whole thing. Honestly, I was a little bit scared of flying all that way with Ella on my lap especially since I hate flying (I get very sick and my ears won't pop). So I'm glad to have the help.
My in laws have been great, helping us book some of their time share so we don't have to pay to stay at certain times during the trip. BIG HELP!!! They are very supportive of our adventure.
Tracie- Hhhmm, that's still pending. My mom is scared, I think. Of the unknown. I tried to explain the process to her last nite, and she says "OMG, this is all very complicated." Um, yes. It is. My dad doesn't say much. We've not said anything else to other family yet. Not sure what we'll do with this.
Our biggest fear is that a child that comes from this process will be LABELED. Which happens sometimes, as much as we'd like to think it doesn't. This has been one helluva journey for us. Although I am bummed (read: ashamed) my body has not worked for us well, I will be extremely proud of any child that comes from this. No matter HOW they got into my belly. I wish Guiana & Bill Rancic were not the ones paving the way for people being open about Infertility. I wish superstars would not keep this problem a secret. I wish no one had to deal with it, but if someone does, I would sure love for that shroud of (whatever it is) to not cover it.
Rant over. Sorry. I don't care what people think, we're doing what is best for our family.
As always, feel free to ask any other questions you have, we are happy to answer.
Monday, March 22, 2010
Q&A Tracie
* 1)How many babies would you like for the IVF to produce? Are you secretly hoping for twins? Obviously a healthy baby & pregnancy is your main hope.
After loosing 7 pregnancies, I'm just ready for something to stick and stay put. If I were being totally honest, I would admit that twins would be nice. Then we could be done with this chit. But I would admit to wanting the twins thing ONLY if they were full term and healthy, and I didn't have bedrest until the last week. And I could have a vaginal birth. With an epidural. And I could tandem nurse with ease.
And since 99.9% of the audience reading this KNOWS that these requests are certainly a TALL ORDER... I best go back to wishing hard for one sticky cute baby.
With an epidural. lol.
2)If this IVF is not successful (notice, I did not say, a failure..) will you try again?
Yes. I will mother others. Hopefully we'll get a couple of frosties to do a FET. Again, there I go with the tall orders.
* 3)How many children do you want to complete your family?
I've always thought I wanted 4 kids. I bet Davez would be content with 3. Of course, this was all before the hell of getting them started. We're tired. TIE-ERD. But in the same breath, I don't see myself being content with just two. It just does not feel finished in my head. We're always said we're going to do international adoption, and did start the process. We'll pull that off the backburner at some point, I bet. Or do foster-adopt in the states if money becomes the issue I suspect it might someday. Infertility is not only hard on your body and soul, it wrecks your pocketboook.
* 4)I'd love to hear about all the pre-contact that you have had with the doctors.
No you wouldn't. It's been the frustrating part of this to say the least. I'm a control freak, and always have 100 questions. This doc is slow to respond to emails, and whether it's a language/cultural thing or not, his answers are too curt to pacify me. While I have no doubt things will work out once we get there, and my Mark (from Passport Medical) has been AWESOME (he's done IVF with his wife a few times, and knows the lingo and concerns) .... working with this doc could be potentially frustrating for those that don't have the support that I (we) do with our online mom's group. They've been there done that. And I"m so grateful for them and their knowledge. And allowence of my annoying questions non-stop.
* 5)Do you have to go down with a full diagnosis or are they going to work through your various issues?
We have no fricken clue what's wrong with me. My doc there thinks it's "Natural Killer Cell" activity, which is "hooie" in most doc's eyes. He wants me to stop in Nicaragua or Columbia and do "LIT" which is illegal in the states. And it is also deemed "hooie" by most docs. So we're just doing "empiric therapy" such as met, lovenox, folic, etc. and trying to loose as much weight as possible before I go. Uugh. Carrot stick, anyone?
* 6)Have you already sent them your entire medical file?
I have the most impressive yet disturbing and depressing MASTER SPREADSHEET of my history ever. All my cycles, tests, stats, deets.... it is pretty cool, in a "chit, this is my life?" kinda of way. I'll hand carry my records too, but I bet they go unopened. They're not in spanish. lol. Let's face it, I (we) have done so much research and tried so many things by this point, we could practically run this cycle ourselves. Doctor? DOCTOR? WE DON'T NEED NO STINKIN' DOCTOR !!! lol.
After loosing 7 pregnancies, I'm just ready for something to stick and stay put. If I were being totally honest, I would admit that twins would be nice. Then we could be done with this chit. But I would admit to wanting the twins thing ONLY if they were full term and healthy, and I didn't have bedrest until the last week. And I could have a vaginal birth. With an epidural. And I could tandem nurse with ease.
And since 99.9% of the audience reading this KNOWS that these requests are certainly a TALL ORDER... I best go back to wishing hard for one sticky cute baby.
With an epidural. lol.
2)If this IVF is not successful (notice, I did not say, a failure..) will you try again?
Yes. I will mother others. Hopefully we'll get a couple of frosties to do a FET. Again, there I go with the tall orders.
* 3)How many children do you want to complete your family?
I've always thought I wanted 4 kids. I bet Davez would be content with 3. Of course, this was all before the hell of getting them started. We're tired. TIE-ERD. But in the same breath, I don't see myself being content with just two. It just does not feel finished in my head. We're always said we're going to do international adoption, and did start the process. We'll pull that off the backburner at some point, I bet. Or do foster-adopt in the states if money becomes the issue I suspect it might someday. Infertility is not only hard on your body and soul, it wrecks your pocketboook.
* 4)I'd love to hear about all the pre-contact that you have had with the doctors.
No you wouldn't. It's been the frustrating part of this to say the least. I'm a control freak, and always have 100 questions. This doc is slow to respond to emails, and whether it's a language/cultural thing or not, his answers are too curt to pacify me. While I have no doubt things will work out once we get there, and my Mark (from Passport Medical) has been AWESOME (he's done IVF with his wife a few times, and knows the lingo and concerns) .... working with this doc could be potentially frustrating for those that don't have the support that I (we) do with our online mom's group. They've been there done that. And I"m so grateful for them and their knowledge. And allowence of my annoying questions non-stop.
* 5)Do you have to go down with a full diagnosis or are they going to work through your various issues?
We have no fricken clue what's wrong with me. My doc there thinks it's "Natural Killer Cell" activity, which is "hooie" in most doc's eyes. He wants me to stop in Nicaragua or Columbia and do "LIT" which is illegal in the states. And it is also deemed "hooie" by most docs. So we're just doing "empiric therapy" such as met, lovenox, folic, etc. and trying to loose as much weight as possible before I go. Uugh. Carrot stick, anyone?
* 6)Have you already sent them your entire medical file?
I have the most impressive yet disturbing and depressing MASTER SPREADSHEET of my history ever. All my cycles, tests, stats, deets.... it is pretty cool, in a "chit, this is my life?" kinda of way. I'll hand carry my records too, but I bet they go unopened. They're not in spanish. lol. Let's face it, I (we) have done so much research and tried so many things by this point, we could practically run this cycle ourselves. Doctor? DOCTOR? WE DON'T NEED NO STINKIN' DOCTOR !!! lol.
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